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	<title>Comments on: Apple will discontinue the iPhone NDA</title>
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		<title>By: house podcast</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3247</link>
		<dc:creator>house podcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will adium ever consider a platform on rim devices?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will adium ever consider a platform on rim devices?</p>
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		<title>By: GrailWebD</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3172</link>
		<dc:creator>GrailWebD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, so about the Adium Android app... when is that coming out? I heard about it and I'm really excited!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, so about the Adium Android app&#8230; when is that coming out? I heard about it and I&#8217;m really excited!</p>
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		<title>By: Veridicus</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3141</link>
		<dc:creator>Veridicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relax people.  I am with you, I want it on the iphone, I want it and the desktop version to have video, I want it andI want it now.  However, so far this is a free application, excluding donations which I have sent, and people even geeky Adium programmers have lives that for odd reasons don't always revolve around what I want. We, users, sound like ungrateful Veruca Salt wannabes from the film Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory..."I want it, and I want it now."

I think IT IS REASONABLE that Adium informs us of their intentions regardless of how far-fetched and chuck-full of wishful thinking these endeavors may be.  The fact that they are honest and give us insight into what obstacles lay in their way should be commended and appreciated not torn apart simply because some of us want to hear that all we want is possible and that whatever we want is around the corner.

Having written all of this nice stuff... now I can get to my comment/question/concern:
The last update to 1.3.2 build 25330 makes all my accounts seem to disappear.  I regressed back 1.3.2b2 and all is well.

In advance, thanks for addressing my comments.

and fyi...Before someone tries to find me and destroy my DSL modem for posting this here, know this; I tried to find the right spot in the different threads, but alas, the threads are a jumbled mess in which I see no clear place for my comment/question.concern regarding missing or disappeared accounts with the 25330 build of 1.3.2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax people.  I am with you, I want it on the iphone, I want it and the desktop version to have video, I want it andI want it now.  However, so far this is a free application, excluding donations which I have sent, and people even geeky Adium programmers have lives that for odd reasons don&#8217;t always revolve around what I want. We, users, sound like ungrateful Veruca Salt wannabes from the film Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory&#8230;&#8221;I want it, and I want it now.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think IT IS REASONABLE that Adium informs us of their intentions regardless of how far-fetched and chuck-full of wishful thinking these endeavors may be.  The fact that they are honest and give us insight into what obstacles lay in their way should be commended and appreciated not torn apart simply because some of us want to hear that all we want is possible and that whatever we want is around the corner.</p>
<p>Having written all of this nice stuff&#8230; now I can get to my comment/question/concern:<br />
The last update to 1.3.2 build 25330 makes all my accounts seem to disappear.  I regressed back 1.3.2b2 and all is well.</p>
<p>In advance, thanks for addressing my comments.</p>
<p>and fyi&#8230;Before someone tries to find me and destroy my DSL modem for posting this here, know this; I tried to find the right spot in the different threads, but alas, the threads are a jumbled mess in which I see no clear place for my comment/question.concern regarding missing or disappeared accounts with the 25330 build of 1.3.2.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbertus</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3140</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbertus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really dislike the attitudes of the devs on Adium.  Why would you post a blog entry that indicates an exciting new development for Adium, followed by reasons why it will, likely, not happen (and definitely not in a reasonable period of time)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really dislike the attitudes of the devs on Adium.  Why would you post a blog entry that indicates an exciting new development for Adium, followed by reasons why it will, likely, not happen (and definitely not in a reasonable period of time)?</p>
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		<title>By: pepeleon2000</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3134</link>
		<dc:creator>pepeleon2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Gustavo Ali (and Marce just before him) wanted to say, is that they'd like Adium to offer Video Conference Options... and I do agree with them.
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BIGGER INCOMING MESSAGES FONTS (and colors option)
What I 'd like is a Message Style with Bigger types for the Incoming Messages.
I do not need to read what I've just typed before. I need to read what my friends are telling me, so please somebody do it.
I particularly like DarkGray Style. Elegant and simple. 
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DARKGRAY Style troubles...
Messages from MSN are displayed in Black (over DarkGray's black background)... so it can't be used.
I tried to fix the Default fonts and color for incoming and outgoing messages but it can't be done or it doesn't work.
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MAIL CHECKER
And please somebody add a Mail Checker (with links) for all the accounts...!!!

(iMac / 3GB-RAM / OSX10.5.5)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Gustavo Ali (and Marce just before him) wanted to say, is that they&#8217;d like Adium to offer Video Conference Options&#8230; and I do agree with them.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
BIGGER INCOMING MESSAGES FONTS (and colors option)<br />
What I &#8216;d like is a Message Style with Bigger types for the Incoming Messages.<br />
I do not need to read what I&#8217;ve just typed before. I need to read what my friends are telling me, so please somebody do it.<br />
I particularly like DarkGray Style. Elegant and simple.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
DARKGRAY Style troubles&#8230;<br />
Messages from MSN are displayed in Black (over DarkGray&#8217;s black background)&#8230; so it can&#8217;t be used.<br />
I tried to fix the Default fonts and color for incoming and outgoing messages but it can&#8217;t be done or it doesn&#8217;t work.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
MAIL CHECKER<br />
And please somebody add a Mail Checker (with links) for all the accounts&#8230;!!!</p>
<p>(iMac / 3GB-RAM / OSX10.5.5)</p>
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		<title>By: gustavo ali</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3130</link>
		<dc:creator>gustavo ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ke pedo hagan un extra para hacer videoconferencias!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ke pedo hagan un extra para hacer videoconferencias!</p>
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		<title>By: marce</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3129</link>
		<dc:creator>marce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi kiero preguntar porke no existe una opcion pa hacer videollamada se le esta olvidando o  ke ondaas de vdd alguine leee esto porke de vdd rekiero ver webcam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi kiero preguntar porke no existe una opcion pa hacer videollamada se le esta olvidando o  ke ondaas de vdd alguine leee esto porke de vdd rekiero ver webcam</p>
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		<title>By: Homeslice</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3120</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeslice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand this is not an easy undertaking... and that Apple has not relinquished the nda yet, but judging by your "important points" above, you guys act like you haven't even looked at the SDK for making this thing happen yet. I know there is an NDA in place, but I don't understand why you're waiting so long to get your feet wet with this, at least looking into it. Obviously there's demand for it. I'm kinda surprised at how reluctant you are to enter this realm, especially since it might be a reasonable source of revenue. I don't mean to sound... demanding... or overly critical...  but it does seem like a certain amount of foresight and preparation for this has been neglected or avoided. Again, not to be overly critical, I just hate to see someone beat you to the punch. Luckily, all the similar solutions that ARE available are sub-par as of this point, so your window is still open... for now. Hop to, fellas, right now you'd be the big dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand this is not an easy undertaking&#8230; and that Apple has not relinquished the nda yet, but judging by your &#8220;important points&#8221; above, you guys act like you haven&#8217;t even looked at the SDK for making this thing happen yet. I know there is an NDA in place, but I don&#8217;t understand why you&#8217;re waiting so long to get your feet wet with this, at least looking into it. Obviously there&#8217;s demand for it. I&#8217;m kinda surprised at how reluctant you are to enter this realm, especially since it might be a reasonable source of revenue. I don&#8217;t mean to sound&#8230; demanding&#8230; or overly critical&#8230;  but it does seem like a certain amount of foresight and preparation for this has been neglected or avoided. Again, not to be overly critical, I just hate to see someone beat you to the punch. Luckily, all the similar solutions that ARE available are sub-par as of this point, so your window is still open&#8230; for now. Hop to, fellas, right now you&#8217;d be the big dog.</p>
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		<title>By: SquirrelTech</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3106</link>
		<dc:creator>SquirrelTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that there's currently more than 5-6 current multichat programs available (see http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/iphone-gems-the-best-instant-messaging-apps/ for details), I can't see why Adium couldn't be ported effectively.  I'd be willing to pay a few dollars if it meant a reliable Adium on my iPhone, or some sort of push method-- although many of us have laptops and I for one don't leave mine up and running when I'm away from it for security reasons-- I close the lid all the time.  

If you do start making an effort to do so, I would recommend the following:

Ability to click on web links that will activate a page in Safari
Ability to include short audio recordings
Ability to include photos from the phone's gallery/iphoto
Not requiring an account setup to login to all chats

the first one is crucial, and would put Adium leaps and bounds above all others.  Currently only one iPhone multichat does this, but with it's own browser and requires a login for accessing the accounts.  
I say let Safari do the browsing work, and let people keep their privacy by allowing them to simply login to their respective chat clients rather than an all-encompassing deal.

Get on it! I want to see the best Mac chat program getting the attention it deserves on my phone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that there&#8217;s currently more than 5-6 current multichat programs available (see <a href="http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/iphone-gems-the-best-instant-messaging-apps/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/iphone-gems-the-best-instant-messaging-apps/</a> for details), I can&#8217;t see why Adium couldn&#8217;t be ported effectively.  I&#8217;d be willing to pay a few dollars if it meant a reliable Adium on my iPhone, or some sort of push method&#8211; although many of us have laptops and I for one don&#8217;t leave mine up and running when I&#8217;m away from it for security reasons&#8211; I close the lid all the time.  </p>
<p>If you do start making an effort to do so, I would recommend the following:</p>
<p>Ability to click on web links that will activate a page in Safari<br />
Ability to include short audio recordings<br />
Ability to include photos from the phone&#8217;s gallery/iphoto<br />
Not requiring an account setup to login to all chats</p>
<p>the first one is crucial, and would put Adium leaps and bounds above all others.  Currently only one iPhone multichat does this, but with it&#8217;s own browser and requires a login for accessing the accounts.<br />
I say let Safari do the browsing work, and let people keep their privacy by allowing them to simply login to their respective chat clients rather than an all-encompassing deal.</p>
<p>Get on it! I want to see the best Mac chat program getting the attention it deserves on my phone!</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/10/apple-will-discontinue-the-iphone-nda/#comment-3073</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sweden loves adium!

please add me, all swedish adium-users :)

hugs and love</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sweden loves adium!</p>
<p>please add me, all swedish adium-users <img src='http://adiumx.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>hugs and love</p>
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